Naruto discussion who is tobi

I noticed Tobi runs away when defeated now. Usually when ninja die they still remain in their allocated spots but it seems with Tobi it frees up an extra space possibly for clones, puppets etc. Could this be an extra hidden ability of his? I believe it is a remain of his passive skill that was allowing him to return to battle after being defeated- but it got changed and now he has passive that adds 20 chakra. But in some instances Tobi as opponent still have that old passive.

Also- it's pretty funny imo- or look at his chase skill animation when he shows the :victory: sign- and matching character too :P. Wow I never saw it that way. Can someone verify if clones can be put into his spot or nah once Tobi dies?

Kaede On Usually when ninja die they still remain in their allocated spots but it seems with Tobi it frees up an extra space possibly for clones, puppets etc. He is still there, just invisible. Recent Watched Ignored Search Forum. Pages 4 [1] 2 3 » Last ».

DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this chapter. If you want to discuss future events, please use separate threads. Finally some connection between the two! Tsunade die? To bad she is awesome Hokage. I want to know why obito teamed up with madara!! Wow, Madara destroyed the 5 kages almost to the point of death. How the hell does Naruto stand a chance now? This chapter had made it very clear that Tsunade has the death flag written all over. I'm guessing she has one last jutsu that will turn the tables of the war at the cost of her life.

Though I'm sure other major sacrifices will be made amidst the battle with Obito and Madara. Excellent chapter :D Naruto is totally screwed, can't believe all the kages are down for the count. To take on Obito, Kakashi and Gai needed Naruto and his clones or rasengan but now that its just Kakakshi and Gai I don't think they stand a chance really.

Kakashi is out of Kamui and Gai can only use tai jutsu. I'm glad next chapter will at least explain some stuff about obito turning bad. Obito looks completely messed in the flashback. They're probably not ok. That line made my day. So, is Tsunada going to die to save the others Kage? Avenir said: They're probably not ok. Finally we are getting an explanation connection Madara and Obito.

Holy shit, Tsunade's body was torn apart, I doubt she is going to survive. Our theory of Madara being the one who started everything is true, remember that it was never said when he died, but how the hell did Obito survive, was Madara waiting there or what when the hideout broke down? Also, looks like Obitio has self-healing abilities. Tsunade should die, so as to leave the seat empty for naruto to take after this war and good people need to die too in this war.

Not really bad chapter, better than what I expected, madara owned the kagebunshin but where is the real naruto? Good to see that at least next week we'll get some explanations, it better be good. Poor Tsunade, scrolling down and seeing her body torn in two was serious.

Oh, so you can still survive after being crushed just with bandages and stiches. Sure, this looks completely legit. Meanwhile, Tsunade is going to die because of her injures. Why don't you save her with bandages and stiches, Kishimoto-sensei? Or this makes you stretch your suspension of disbelief? Great chapter, really good. He blew back Naruto like it was nothing! And he nearly killed all Five of the Kages with ease! I wonder if Tsunade's gonna be kicking the bucket soon Anyway, hopefully next week we'll finally be able to see how Madara has been operating for all of these years and just how he knows Obito and Nagato.

This chapter's got me super stoked right now! Can't wait for next week! It is indeed Obito now. Tsunade will most likely die, and I've kind of thought. She sacrificed too much against Madara. Anyways, great chapter.

Probably not quite like that, but I'm just sayin. Hypeathon said: Why Goes to show how the community reacts when a plot twist happens that they don't approve of. I knew Tobi's identity would cause controversy..

Can't we just have closure in Tobi's identity once and for all? It's been revealed. Enough speculating, let's just merge the articles. Why would Kishimoto lie about revealing Tobi's identity within the month? There's more than enough proof to warrant merging the articles.

I'm not against stating in the articles that Tobi appears to be Obito, but it's too soon for a merger yet cause the next chapter for sure is gonna explain what we, narutofans wanted to find out for years. This edit war could end if the articles become merged. Also, "guy who doesn't use signatures. I'm sick of reversing your edits. Anyway, is that all you want? Some backstory to "prove" he's Obito?

I don't understand your logic. How will backstory confirm any more of the authenticity of his identity than his face and Mangekyo being shown? Now you are more immature than I am I have lost respect that I had for you Fox. My goal with this section was just to summarize what happened in this chapter and how it should be looked at in an objective way.

You could've continued discussing in the discussion above, guys. I'm not amazed by this plot twist, only by its stupidity. I'm fine with Obito being Tobi and all, but I want it to be confirmed in some way. Tobi has to react and I want to wait for that reaction, since I don't see the confirmation some of you guys see in this chapter. That's all. No childish crying from my side. I can't even understand why there's all this ruckus.

Tobi doesn't have any Obito traits, like coming late, stuff getting into his eyes etc. I don't see much Obito resemblance at all. Tobi is Tobi, and his answer is "I'm no one" there's no single reason for him to hide his identity before Kakashi, take that into consideration. Till we see Tobi himself confirming to be Obito and another flashback with an explanation, stating he is such by appearance only is jumping the gun-- Elveonora talk , August 29, UTC.

I knew it, I knew it. One day in naruto wiki history there would be a time where every body would argue over something stupid. Elveonora why are you acting up.

Why you cant accept the truth. It not a life changing event to be stressing about. Like really? Obito was 13 and tobi is near kakashi age now. You not going to expect a 13 year being all dark and evil at that time. Nagato was nice right. But he got corrupted and that proably what happen to obito. All of you, have some common sense especially you elveonora. Yeah there going to be explantion but you guys are over reacting. Just be patient. If Obito turned evil over time, then okay But it happened in a year, that's not believable.

The only explanations are, mental disorder, possession, or Kishi's fuck plot no jutsu-- Elveonora talk , August 29, UTC. What do you mean by "year". His last appearance in the naruto world was over years.

Tobi's attack on Konoha occurred a year after the 3rd Shinobi World War had ended, thus Obito had only a year to:.

Nagato was at least more or less believable, it took him years in a war and his dog and best friend dying Other Factors could affect him like 1 year is alot of time for one person. Im not sure how to explain this but my point is that other factors could be involved in this. Okay look. I agree that the plot doesn't add up, but Kishimoto has made stupid decisions before, and this is one of them. The point is, he's Obito. We're not waiting out confirmation, he's Obito.

It's completely unprofessional of the wiki to keep the articles stuck at chapter for two weeks. Also, Elveo, your points continue to be crap. Tobi's used multiple voices in the past, there's no proof his head was crushed by the boulder or that it's made up with zetsu goo. He might not be pure evil, he knows Madara.. Most 15 year olds are tall, and I didn't see Kakashi and Gai looking shorter in the slightest, finally, Tobi isn't overpowered.

He's been pathetic in this fight. So like I said, you clearly don't have any points outside speculation. And when you try to come up with them from facts established in the series, I can dispute every single one of them in a matter of seconds. Why are you still trying? It's clear you're an anti-Obitard who just wants to frantically try to justify any excuse you have to suggest Tobi isn't Obito.

I don't like it either, but I'm accepting it. Because not accepting it would make me look like a desperate loser, which is what you're being. And I say that with no offense meant, because I know you aren't one. But your behavior just strikes me as somewhat desperate. For christ's sake, your profile was boasting about how Tobi won't be Obito for days. Now that it turns out he is, you can't accept that you were wrong. I don't get it. If it's stated in the manga then theres nothing you could do about.

If you want you could just make your own naruto info wiki so it could be based on what you feel its true. Just dont stress over something stupid- no offences to the staff here. First of all, I would like to say how disappointed I am with the fandom's reaction to this chapter. It's the whole Itachi's truth, Kushina is a Jinchuuriki reaction all over again! Let's face it: people have been trying to guess Tobi's identity for so long that whover he turned up to be Izuna, Obito, Kagami, Fugaku Did I like the revelation?

No, but Kishimoto has explained other twists fairly well until now, I believe he will do it again in the next chapter s. I agree that we should wait until what happened is revealed, there are many things that need to be explained. I'm also disappointed. But we should still merge the articles, or else we're spreading misinformation to people reading.

Tobi was, by all means, revealed to be Obito. That much is confirmed. The fact that we're not merging them because of some lack of backstory and explanation is childish. We'll add the backstory when it's revealed, but we can't keep saying Tobi and Obito are seperate entities, because they're not. Any insinuation that they are is speculation that's unconfirmed, while our best lead which IS confirmed is that he's Obito. The end.

I know that, but I don't take this as final, wait just a week please then I will come out of the closet. I know that we at this wiki shouldn't take our logic above canon, but when the canon isn't clear then there's a reason to be cautious. For comparison, Orochimaru appeared to be Shiore at first, turned out to be a mask made from that person's flesh-- Elveonora talk , August 29, UTC.

If I may interrupt. I read the chapter today, and I was kind of sad to the lack of words. In the end of the Chapter we see the mask finally broken and Tobi reveals to be Obito Uchiha , however. I've read some of the comments and I understand that some of us may be angry or sad. I for one did not want Tobi to be Obito, but we don't know why someone kind turned out to be some evil super-power. I think it has been decided, but we'll just wait until next week. A similar instance happened with another anime known as Yu-Gi-Oh 5d's.

The head of Yliaster an organization composing of 4 people and cells , ZONE Z-one had a "mask" on his face then it broke due to being thrown into a nearby building. The episode ended there and then another episode came up later on. ZONE said many things, but one thing he said could mean that he's not Yusei.

He said that he made himself look like Yusei. This is still arguable, but, this seems to resemble the dilema we're facing now. After a few information, we may find out that what we see is not what it seems. In my opinion, Tobi looks like the Fourth Kazekage actually highly unlikely But that's my opinion. I hope not to spark up another debate, but I just wanted to say this. If the people that said Tobi is Obito is correct, then you're correct, no one will argue with you.

If Tobi is, however somehow not Obito, then Tobi is someone else. We just have to patient. That's all we need. Thank you. What this guy says, lol. It's already in the process of being merged.

Sorry for the argument Elve. Then what? Instead of a week, we'll be waiting a month for a so called 'confirmation' that we already have? Wikipedia have changed their article, so why not change ours? The narrator says 'It's finally revealed.

His name is Obito! Just because we don't have the details doesn't mean it isn't true. Sorry guys, just trolling! It doesn't matter. It looks like the admins are stepping up and merging the pages now. It's a bit messy, but after a day I think it'll all be good. It's cool, I just wanted to save you guys a lot of work in a case there's a twist to all of it.

Would be hilarious to merge the pages only to again separate a week later-- Elveonora talk , August 29, UTC. There are good reasons to wait to merge the articles. Confirmation is a good one, and a reasonable one. But more importantly, the Tobi being Obito makes it very difficult to merge because of timeline issues. When Tobi fought Minato, he would have been either 14 or 15 years old. He would have been somewhere around years old when Itachi found him. He was never extremely skilled, as has been seen, so to be fighting on par with the 4th Hokage years after his "death" with a full mastery of his time-space ability, the ability to control the nine tails, and the fact that he appears to be even older due to some previous manipulations of Nagato and Yahiko.

At best any merged page would just become confusing and nonsensical, with too much conflicting information. Him being Obito makes too little sense for it to so simple, which means that the work it would take to constantly be re-writing the articles would not be worth the immediate time. In regards the the Madara reveal; Madara was brought back from the dead, so it was clearly him. Even if it were some situation were Tobi was some form of living incarnation of Madara with his memories, it is still not Madara because Madara's soul was brought back, so spitting the article was really the only choice.

Well, how about just keeping all the articles as just calling him Tobi? You could change Obito's article into Tobi's, and state that his birth name is Obito Uchiha. I always thought Tobi would be Obito, but I don't think the chapters should be merged yet.

I highly, highly doubt Kishi will suddenly go, "Lol, nope" in the next chapter, but the truth is-- if it turns out that even if it's Obito's body, it's not Obito himself after all, Nagato was in Yahiko's body , then it's going to be another enormous, huge overhaul for the mods. But I do believe in this wikia being up-to-date.

I think the Tobi page should have a note that says, "Revealed as Obito" along with the relevant information, and that Obito's page should say something similar. Link the two pages. Don't do a complete merge or de-merge. Let readers know about the reveal, but don't start making the major changes until the next chapter. If he goes back to Sasuke or the kage fight, we're sure as hell not waiting a month for him to get back to Obito.

But the truth is-- I think waiting a week for potentially clarifying information is worth it. I also think that we can update with other information-- such as how this chapter revealed potential sabotage during the chunin exams. Did anyone notice what the candy the old lady gave him did to Obito? We should definitely put that information in there. But I feel like I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop in the next chapter. So let's keep it simple.

Make a note about the character link on both pages. Analyze the chapter for information about relevant characters' pasts-- we now know what genin teams most of the jonin were in Gai, Genma, Asuma, Kurenai, Hayate, etc. We know more about Kakashi's past, about Rin, and about Obito. Let's not let that stuff get lost in the whole, "Omg, Tobito! I have yet to read the majority of discussions anywhere, in Tobi's talk page, and in Obito's talk page. I may suggest things that have already been done without me knowing.

I tried replying to this thread within one hour of the chapter going online, I was at college, but the power went out, and when it came back on, I was already in the middle of stuff I couldn't simply stop.

Now, I think that this chapter makes it clear that Tobi is Obito. I don't dislike that because of the obviousness of it, but this does to my soul the same it did to the timeline: it kicked it in the nuts and punched crater-sized holes in it. I see that stuff from Tobi's page was moved to Tobi's article. I don't know if Tobi's page still exists as a redirect, I hope it does.

I agree that the page was to merged, even if several wrinkles in the timeline need to be resolved. I think it's imperative for us to keep referring to the character as Tobi throughout articles for the parts which talk about him prior to the revelation of his identity.

I believe that Tobi should be listed as being Obito, even if I myself see too many timeline issues for that to work, mainly stuff Tobi claimed he did, which would place his existence way before Obito's birth, at least in the Second Shinobi World War. Of course, that could just be him telling blatant lies. I also don't buy the splash text, since those don't make it to the volume release, and I don't really trust the chapter title either.

I'm still figuring out what to think of Kakashi's line in the end of the chapter, one scanlation makes it look more like a question, and the other makes it look more like a shocked statement. I want know how much the original makes of it like a question, if what Kakashi says isn't "Are you Obito? Wow, wrote all that without an edit conflict.

Sorry for my earlier behavior guys. Even completely without hatred and bias, reading the article and rephrasing it in my head like: "Obito attacked Konoha and killed a lot of citizens, drove his Sensei to death, killed Biwako Sarutobi with his bare hands 14 years old guy and played with a giant demonic fox" it's just plain retarded.

It's perfectly fine Elve, everyone has an opinion on this, and there's nothing wrong with that. But for now no one can really say anything about it, because we can't call something stupid when it hasn't been explained yet. Although I do agree that it is very far-fetched and Kishimoto will have a looot of explaining to do xD But on the other hand it does make a lot of sense, being that it wasn't confirmed that Obito had died, Kakashi and Rin just presumed that he was crushed.

And as for the evil-to-good switch we could take a look at Sasuke, who also turned to the bad side, the only difference is that we know why Sasuke switched. Tobi mentions wanting to create a peaceful world, so perhaps Obito is just like Nagato, having a bizarre look on what he calls 'peace'. It just hasn't been explained yet, so we'll just have to sit back and wait and see. From whatever I could grasp from the above discuusion, we are going to keep it Obito for things that were done by Obito and Tobi for things done by Tobi.

Am I right? Obito's Body is Obviously being controlled or something.. Tobi says he gave Nagato rinnegan and Nagato shows his Rinnegan to Jiriah who goes to teach Minato who then teaches Kakashi and Obito soooooo I Don't Know- DragerX. Yeah, it looks like they merged the Articles. I'm not all for it, but I'm not in any way an important enough person to have some effect. NOT Obito! They said "Obito?!

This obviously provides a sense of uncertainty; doesn't constitute any facts whatsoever. Kishi said he'll reveal the man's identity, blah blah blah, this month, blah blah blah. Point is, he's either messing with us or his calendar is about a month off, lol. None of the characters said that the masked man is Obito. Not even the masked man said he was Obito.

So, as our amazingly annoying justice system works, this guy is innocent until proven guilty. Get over it. Obito is Tobi. You people stop saying bull-crap like: "get over it, Tobi is Obito" I mean There you go, mystery solved, you jelly Obitards? Obito already shared Izuna's birthday prior to chapter You're beginning to annoy me as well.

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